Person A being very attentive and vigilant whilst helping Person B recover from an injury/illness that keeps B in and out of consciousness, with little memory of the whole traumatic ordeal. After B’s recovery, Person A never mentions their involvement, and Person B can’t figure out why A’s presence brings so much comfort.
Homestuck ships possible (don’t forget, four romances, one tri-relational) = (840 * 839 * 3) + (840 * 839 * 838) =
592,703,160
What math were YOU doing?
Alex you wonderfully saucy bastard you.
Wait, you are actually forgetting that in Homestuck it is possible for a person to be shipped with themselves (Karkat for example is in a kismesis relationship with his past/future selves). This brings the real total of number of ships closer to (840^2 * 3) + (840^3) =
594,820,800
This is of course assuming that each character is only capable of having 4 types of ships. If we factor in charms (which is the Leprechaun romance system) there are 9 types of relationships. However, it is clearly stated that Leprechauns can be in more than 1 charm with another Leprechaun. That means that the total number of combinations of relationships that a Leprechaun can have is :
=
511
There are 14 known Leprechauns in Homestuck meaning that the total number of possible “Leprechaun Only” relationships in Homestuck is (14*14*511) =
100,156
So we add that number to the previous total for 594,820,800 + 100,156 =
594,920,956
However, this is assuming that only Leprechauns can be in these types of relationships. If we assume that all characters can additionally be in these types of relationships (which I understand is a big assumption, but the fandom will probably ship everything possible anyway) then we need to add a few more numbers.
(840 * 840 * 511) =
360,561,600
I am going to add this to the first total I came up with so as not to include the Leprechauns twice. So the grand total number of ships possible in Homestuck assuming that every character can be in both Troll and Leprechaun relationships (but not both at the same time) is:
594,820,800 + 360,561,600 =
955,382,400
So yeah…
hey every nepeta ever
start on that wall
I believe I’ve addressed this before, however, I’ve decided to revisit my old calculations for funsies.
So remember how way back when I said G1 has 538 Autobots and 452 Decepticons? Remember that? And how I got that nifty calculation that said, hey the Transformers Fandom has nearly 3 billion ships in the G1 Continuity on its own?
Well, I went back onto the TF Wiki and decided to calculate the total number of characters from every continuity that could be considered Cybertonian in origin.
TOTAL NUMBER OF AUTOBOTS = 3071
TOTAL NUMBER OF DECEPTICONS = 2469
TOTAL NUMBER OF MAXIMALS = 264
TOTAL NUMBER OF PREDACONS = 310
TOTAL NUMBER OF NEUTRALS = 40
TOTAL NUMBER OF MINICONS = 610
That is a grand spanking total of 6764 Cybertronian characters. If we were simply to address one specific method of pairing characters, say Full Spark Bonding between two individuals, this would lead to exactly 91,503,392 possible ships.
However, there are five widely observed types of relationships between Cybertronians. These are Full Spark Bond (2 Individuals), Partial Spark Bond (2 Individuals), Trine Bond (3 Individuals), Full Multiple Spark Bond (3 to 5 Individuals), Partial Multiple Spark Bond (3 to 5 Individuals).
Ahem.
Following my revised calculations, the total number of possible ships with JUST Cybertronian Characters is anywhere between 2,785,363,252,480 and 929,033,938,976.
Between 2 Trillion and 900 Trillion.
In conclusion…
ROBOTS!!
Every once in a while the Transformers fandom will rear its head and you see a glimpse of infinity.
did they just dethrone us
You know what, you didn’t just dethrone us.
Let’s, for the sake of fairness, keep the calculation of Homestuck’s total ships at 594,820,800 (disregarding leprechauns, including selfcest.)
And instead add this:
No, it’s not canon. No, this probably wouldn’t apply to any form of Alternia that “exists” or ever will “exist”. But for now, forget that.
We’ve already calculated data for the main four ships, so for now those are going to be skipped. Going down this list in order disregarding the main ships, we have (840^3) + (840^2) + (840^4) + (840^3) + (840^2) + (840^2) + (840^2) + (840^2).
Simplified? 499,060,296,000 ships. Adding the original ship count gives us 499,655,116,800 – which, for those of you whom don’t want to look at such a big number, is a burning half trillion potential ships.
Not enough to scratch your total. Let’s just try not to succumb to futility, here: predictably, I’m going to go deeper.
Flagism (i.e. inside-your-caste only) required me getting a list of every canon troll. Yes, Meirfa and Nektan as well as their potential ancestors/decendants (one or the other) are counted. In cases in which it asks for a “group”, or uses “many”, I used 4 and 8 respectively, in reference to the kids. This is because things like Laytherithm, which could repeat infinitely, would probably essentially be cheating this list.
My final result is 2.484660738974071e+23, which I had to manually calculate to be a whopping total of (supposedly) 248,466,073,897,407,100,000,000. 248 sextillion possible ships. We don’t even need the leprechaun ships, because we’ve already won. *mic drop*
*cracks knuckles*
There are now at least 6766 documented individual named Cybertronian Characters (I’m way too lazy to go back to the TF Wiki a third time to verify it, but there’s probably more. They pop up like daisies). As of my writings at this time we have Full Spark Bonds (2 Individuals), Partial Spark Bonds (2 Individuals), Trine Bonds (3 Individuals), Full Multiple Spark Bonds (3 to 5 Individuals), Partial Multiple Spark Bonds (3 to 5 Individuals, and the Official Conjunx Endura (which appears to be your basic marriage synonym, assumed 2 individuals).
So Full and Partial Spark Bonds plus Conjunx Endura = 3(6766^2)
Add In Trine Bonds = (6766^3)
And all variations of the the Multiples. I only did one variation of each before because honestly, five seemed a bit unfair. = 2(6766^3) + 2(6766^4) + 2(6766^5)
Over 28 Quintillion in Cybertronian Only Relationships. If I really wanted to be unfair, then I would throw in Gestalt Bonds, which can range from 2 to 6 individuals. Occasionally there are more than six, but that’s such a statistical rarity that I’m excluding.
But hey, since I’m here = (6766^2)+(6766^3)+(6766^4)+(6766^5)+(6766^6)
This brings the total to 9,636,373,416,060,850,260,016 and does not include Symbionts (who can have symbiotic bonds with eighteen or possibly more cassettes), Splitsparks (one spark split into two individuals), Triple Changers (one spark, multiple forms and multiple personalities, or Multi-Changers (one spark, more than 3 forms and possibly more than 3 personalities).
This is one Universal Stream.
There are 54 Quadrillion Universal Streams.
I had to use google’s calculator because mine wouldn’t cooperate but that gives us this number here = 520,364,160,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Wikipedia tells me that this number is approximately 520 Tredecillion. Not as nice sounding as Quintillion or Sextillion, I’ll admit. But it’s further down the list and therefore larger, so I will put up with how dumb it sounds.
Considering that we have yet another movie this year, three on-going comic series, and a new tv show due out next summer, we may just reach a googol within the next half decade.
Aw son of a fuck.
Now, I have expended all of my possible resources for possible ships, but you must remember a novemdecillion is eighteen zeroes past a tredecillion. And even if that math did have a chance of being totally incorrect, just remember that we have seven sets of infinity sitting on top of the half-a-quadrillion ship pile.
Apologies, I counted wrong. It’s actually 520 Undecellion, not Tredecillion.
We only reach 1.03 Tredecillion if we add in Triple Changers. It’d be more if we applied every single bonding type to each personality, but I’m pretty sure that may cause some spark strain in the long run and be somewhat physically unhealthy.
I’m also not going to even attempt to calculate the possibilities of Triple Changers in conjunction with Gestalt Bonds because let’s face it, that would be a very ridiculous number, accompanied with the even more ridiculous imagery of Astrotrain and Blitzwing in an orgy with the Stunticons.
If there isn’t a fic of that already, there will be within the next five days.
As for Symbionts and Multi-Changers, there is not enough caffeine in the universe to challenge the headache that will bring me. I also forgot about Binary Bonding and again, that’d probably bring me more headache than can actually be cured. Still left out Humans and Non-Cybertronian Aliens.
But still, whatever number we manage to get for one Universal Stream, we can multiply it by 54 Quadrillion.
Okay, you know what, I know when you have to give up.
Trophy to Transformers fandom.
so. much. math. XD
Did he account for cross-continuity pairings? All the numbers sort of started to dance around.
Never fails to amuse me.
it’s time to throw this out here again
There comes a point where you just have to realize that the Transformers Fandom is the sleeping giant at the bottom of the sea.
You know maybe the reason a certain stripe of people see two dudes whose entire character dynamic is constant antagonism and immediately make them the most popular ship in the fandom is because they were raised on media where constant antagonism is treated as the basis of sexual tension for het couples. You know, the “theyre picking on you because they like you” train of thought? and probably they either never learned to tell the difference or they’re willing to excuse it if it’s in the name of an m/m ship
obvs there is something great about when a Big Scary turns into a Big Softie where Tiny Useless is concerned, but what i like better is:
Tiny Useless decides, with no prompting and for no apparent reason whatsoever, that Big Scary needs protecting. and if no one else will do it then this accidentally-gets-stepped-on, blows-away-in-a-stiff-breeze motherfucker is going to have to be the one to protect this living mountain of pain. you wanna get to this troll, you’re gonna have to go through this pixie. you try to come for this tibetan mastiff, this chihuahua’s gonna try to kick your ass first.
and the Big Scary is mostly just?? really confused???? there are at least twenty different reasons why this is fucking dumb. but also this feeble lil shit is the first person in the entire world to try and stand up for this person that absolutely does not need it. Big Scary continues to be huge and terrifying but now Tiny Useless has their undying loyalty and it will probably not end well for anyone.
i like seeing all of the ships this has been tagged with, but, i am going to be completely honest with you guys, when i wrote this i was thinking about little girls like my sister, who at the age of five had a strict ‘talk shit get hit’ policy about the incredible hulk
“I think you need to taste this for me,” the monarch said. They shoved the exquisite cake in their guard’s direction.
Their guard blinked. “Um.”
“What, you’d rather your monarch be poisoned?”
Of course not. The guard hesitantly took a mouthful, only to practically melt in satisfaction. “Oh my god.” It was amazing. They caught themselves. “I – er – I think it’s fine.”
“You should try a sip of the wine too,” the monarch said. “Just to be safe. Sit, sit.”
It took the guard slightly too long to realize that it was practically a date, with the monarch feeding them delicacies off their plate.
I just have such a profound need for best friend to lover AUs when both sides think there is no chance of anything ever happening.
Sharing beds together since they were little kids and never really growing out of that habit even though it now hurts to be that close to each other, knowing it will never be anything more than platonic cuddling.
Each of them being that one person the other goes to to feel better when they’ve had a shit day or date. Bonus if it’s 3am and they spend all night talking.
Neither of them realising how much they act like they are dating/married and getting super flustered or sad when someone asks how long they’ve been together because do you have to remind me of this painful unrequited torment I die a little more of with every passing second?
How much they make each other smile when one of them walks into a room.
Drunk kissing.
Practice kissing.
Going as each other’s dates to everything because it’s “convenient”.
Wearing each other’s pyjamas when staying over somehow becoming more arousing than if the other person was naked.
Having inside jokes and finishing each other’s sentences as casual as anything.
Knowing random medical shit about each other. Bonus if one of them takes an allergic reaction to something and the other one just pulls out some random ass medicine like they carry it around all the time- spoiler: they do-just in case of this exact eventuality.
The heart break of seeing each other with other people but doing their best to see it through with a grin and with as much encouragement as they can muster.
Staring a little too long at each other.
The awkward moment when they reach the age they said they would marry each other if they were still single.
Getting fake married as kids and family members always reminding them about it , maybe going as far as to put on the video of the fake ceremony and giving them knowing looks.
Something happening- a kiss, sleeping together- and getting into an argument about it, scared this is it, this is the end, that they’ve fucked up and just wishing they could talk to each other about it, to their best friend.
Having the best black mail material on each other but ready to pounce on anyone else who so much as dares try black mail their BFF.
Having a song. Having a whole playlist.
Laughing the first time they have sex.
Already having seen each other at their very worst.
Getting to say cheesy things like, “I can’t believe I get to spend the rest of my life with my best friend” or “I know I’m marrying you but…do you think I could still be in charge of your send off party? I’ve been planning this night for ten years and I will not have someone else mess those plans up.”
Even after years of being together, still being in awe of the fact they get to have the one person they thought they’d never get. The person they helped ask other people out. The person they used to give the “you deserve someone who loves you for you” speech to. The person they used to look at and wonder why does it have to be you? The person they look at now and think it could never have been anyone else.
do you ever look at a ship and think this is it, this is the one, this is the motherducking ship that’s ruined me for good and I will never ever be okay again
Guys a few days ago i saw these two guys that were both probably in their early twenties at the store at like nine o’clock at night and one of them was wearing these fuzzy duck sandals that quacked loudly every time he took a step and his friend was pacing away from him as fast as he could going “I don’t know you. We are not friends.” While the other laughed hysterically about his duck shoes.
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just moving along like everyone else 