does anyone have that old post with a john/dave msparp log that was like dave trying to tell john he’s in love with him and it ended with something like:
dave: i’m in love with you john egbert
john: yeah! see? exactly like that. if you tell them like that and they still don’t get it, they’re just too dumb for you dave.
i cannot BELIEVE people remember my dumb pesterlog oh my god.
anyway yeah i deleted the post a while back when i had to remake my Tumblr.
Okay, so, literally how come everyone in the comic and even outside of it, in the fandom, is ignoring John Egbert’s depression?? How is everyone ignoring his blatant self hatred, expressed clearly through the writing on both the walls of his room on Earth and Prospit??? How come that nobody notices, in spite of popular opinion that John cries at literally anything, that the only time John has cried in the comic, out of actual sadness at a tragic event, was when Jade died and John only she’d a single, restrained tear.
Like???? This really ain’t adding up???
I get it, everyone has a favorite character and not everybody is going to focus on John Egbert specifically, but!!! Everyone’s legit turning a blind eye to what is so clearly written on the walls, literally! John’s hostility on the ship might not be the result of cabin fever, when you realize that depression in young men often take the form of aggression and anger. John’s lack of tears or outwardly showing sadness other than him saying “aw that’s sad” makes a lot more sense if you think about the fact that he repressed it, might not be able to cope with negative emotions, or never even learned how to express them in the first place!
And think about the credits, it’s time to face facts: Nobody’s come to John Egbert’s birthday party in years, but his party banner still remains up, nearly in tatters… He’s alone. In fact, I don’t think anyone’s seen John Egbert in a VERY long time. They’ve forgotten. Rose, Dave, Jade, Karkat. They all forgot. Everyone. Not out of malice or hatred. But because John is the Heir of Breath. He inherits freedom, even freedom from the ones he keeps himself tied down for. He’s all alone and doesn’t fit anywhere. His father is gone and so are all his friends.
Nobody’s reaching out to him, no ones contacted him. He’s all alone. He’s a young man stuck in his house, doomed to repeat long day after long day once again, but this time there’s no one on the other side of a computer screen to make it seem bearable. No one to make it seem that he isn’t so alone after all.
And even the ones who have made the long days seem not so long have hurt him, in spite of not meaning to. On the lily pad, Dave implies that John and Rose didn’t have much to complain about with their guardians, but that’s simply not true. Rose was raised by an alcoholic who, despite her genuine love for her child, was neglectful. John was raised by a good man, a good father, but not a perfect man. Instead of trying to seek treatment for the strangle, self-loathing messages and drawings on his son’s wall, he buys harlequinn-styled paintings and jester sculptures.
Then, Dave and Karkat both push Teresa’s black flirting onto John, which makes John EXTREMELY UNCOMFORTABLE. This makes John so uncomfortable that John EXPLICITLY STATE that he is going to BURY THOSE FEELINGS DOWN AND TRY TO NEVER THINK ABOUT THEM AGAIN. And what does Dave, John’s friend, say?? How does Dave respond to something that sounds almost exactly like a cry for help?? He says that it’s a “weenie thing to do” and wishes John luck with that.
And you know? This would all be okay, if it were the fact that people in the fandom acknowledged it. But there are so few that can’t accept the fact that he’s been forgotten, that he’s depressed, that he’s been depressed for a very long time and it’s only getting worse.
But, then again, if John’s friends all so easily missed the warning signs, who could blame us for also turning a blind eye to what is right in front of us?
homestuck au where everything is the same except all the beta kids were raised as siblings by johns dad because jade didnt deserve to be alone, rose didnt deserve to be ignored and dave didnt deserve to get his ass beat on a regular basis. bro is in jail
they get in the game and find out theyre actually two sets of legitimate siblings and instead of being like “why were these two people were not related two raised as our siblings” (because dad is clearly john’s bio father) john and jade are just like. “awwww WE wanna be related to dave and rose too. this isnt fair”
they meet the alpha kids and rose turns to the derse kids and is like “im rose. i think im your daughter? this is my brother dave, my brother john, and my sister jade. what are your names” and dirk actually literally has a fucking stroke
john and jade have lived together their ENTIRE lives as siblings even though theyre technically second cousins? but dave and rose came later. john and dave had been internet friends and one year when theyre in like fifth grade dave comes to visit and when dad sees all these fuckin bruises all over him hes like “what the FUCK” and when dave goes “oh yeah bro and i were fighting. hes training me for something i guess its no big deal rly. the swords are p badass” dad is like JOHN….JADE……SLEEPING BAGS ARE DOWNSTAIRS and later when daves supposed to go back home john and jade go with him and dads like “im taking your kid because youre incompetent and a monster” and bros like “fair.” and then they call the police on him
roses mom and johns dad were dating for a while like two years later and they were all INTIMATELY aware of the fact that she had no idea whatsoever about how to take care of a kid. one day she was like “hey can you babysit rosey for a few hours i gotta do something” and dad went “yeah” and then mom like. never picked up rose. she just kind of skipped town. so dads here with his two Actual children plus johns internet friend whos brother beat him up and this goth eleven-year-old with a negligent mom and hes just. “guess i need a bigger car”
oh also john and jade are on the meteor during the game. thats a thing. the trolls are all like “???????moirails?????” but thats just kind of how the kids have always acted with each other and they see zero reason to stop now. theyd always been super close for siblings (rose thinks its because theyre all roughly the same age) but for some reason they never grew apart like some kids do and just. stayed really close. they love each other dammit
john and jade legitimately do forget that they arent really related to dave and rose btw. like they straight up are like “remember when this thing happened when we were five” and dave is like “i didnt live with you until i was like 9 dude” and john and jade are like “what really”
also like. since jade was raised around people (including john) theyre both EXTREMELY touchy and even though theyd NEVER say it out loud dave and rose are extremely hungry for like. healthy physical contact that didnt involve fighting ESPECIALLY dave so they have movie nights and shit and they all fall asleep in one big pile??? jade’s got her arms around rose who’s holding hands with john whose legs are tangled up with dave who’s got his face in jade’s hair and despite the logistical speed bumps its literally the most comfortable any of them have ever been as some dumb movie plays on the television and they dream
john’s a prep jade’s a jock dave’s a nerd and rose’s a goth. they all go to public school and have no friends aside from each other for almost two years because since the strilondes dont look like theyre related to the harleyberts people assume that john/rose and jade/ dave are couples and therefore Do Not Interact
one day jades like “blah blah blah my brother dave” and whoever shes talking to is like…..”dave strider? i thought he was your boyfriend” and jade says without skipping a beat “his name is dave egbert and no offense but i would actually rather die”
dave and rose have simultaneous identity crises in sixth grade. “oh jesus oh fuck were not legitimate harleybert siblings what if john and jade dont think were valid” so they sneak out one night to the 24-hour drugstore, pool their allowances to buy enough black hair dye to make rapunzel a goth, and spend two hours together silently destroying their hair as they soak it in cheap dye long enough to literally make it black almost permanently. john gets up to get a glass of water at 2 am and opens the bathroom door to see dave wearing a shower cap and rose frantically scrubbing off the dye stains on the sink and walks right back out again. jade wakes up the next morning and sees two dark-haired people she doesnt recognize asleep next to her and almost has a fucking heart attack
folks who like to argue with gay people when we say “this character is gay/a lesbian” by saying “NO, theyre BI, here is an itemized list of every interaction theyve ever had with the opposite sex, you are committing BI ERASURE” are hilariously pathetic but the MOST pathetic are the people who think vriska is bi because she had a crush on nicolas cage
between john’s appreciation of nic cage in his dogged “heterosexual” way, vriska’s fake crush on john, and both of them using nicolas cage as a human figure they use to assert their heterosexuality by reacting to his traditionally masculine roles by respecting and mimicking him (john) and feeling swooned by him (vriska) it’s safe to say they’re both gay and their respective relationships with human actor nic cage are manifestations of their performative straightness
vriska actually wants to be a big strong hero and john thinks nic cage is fucking sexy. both do everything in their power to deny their truth up to and including dating each other for 12 minutes. they’re both gay
just moving along like everyone else 