Hi Jove <3! If you dont mind me asking, how do things work between Bakugo, fem!Deku and Todoroki in their poly relationship? Im really curious since Bakugo doesnt seem like someone who could share a partner. Also, i hope he redeemed himself for so much abuse, or in this au he wasnt that much of a jerk?

jove-bluh:

Gosh sorry for this late reply. I had an idea and unfortunately I’m horrible with putting these ideas to words and I tried to draw something which turned out to be an equally horrible idea because

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curriebelle:

actuallyclintbarton:

guinevak:

skull-bearer:

thainfool-of-a-took:

roachpatrol:

mercurialmalcontent:

I’m not even much of a fan of genderbends but goddamn am I even less of a fan of getting ordered around about what I should enjoy and how I should enjoy it and being lectured about how ‘problematic’ it is, when the real problem is that they’ve cast the thing in question in black and white and refuse to admit that there’s anything but their narrow framing.

Changing a character to the ‘opposite’ cis gender is a very different thing than making them trans or nonbinary. Insisting that people only change characters to trans is also really damn invalidating, because it implies that being trans is interchangable with being cis. Whoopsie doodle!

I think the real issue here is that a lot of people want to see more trans headcanons, but for some reason think that using sj words while being bossy and rude is the way to go about it. Dress it up in progressive language all you like; at the end of the day you’re still being bossy and rude to get what you want, regardless of anyone else’s valid feelings.

i get really irritated at kids who scream that genderbends are transphobic because they’re completely missing the context and history. they have no idea. it’s like to them, Cis People made up genderbends specifically to thumb their noses at trans people.  

rule 63 was originally a guy thing, sexual objectification thing. it states ‘for every male character, there’s a female version of that character’, and not because the dudes who were into it cared about having more realistically rendered female heroes in their media. it was made popular on 4chan and porn boards and comics+gaming forums because you could reduce a manly male character into a sexy tits-and-ass pinup. there were related kinks of sissification, but mostly it was about getting to jerk it to a sexy female version of a previously unappealing, macho male character. 

then women got hold of the rule and started going, okay. let’s look at the female version of this male character. let’s talk about being a woman in a man’s world. let’s talk about rorschach’s misogyny, tony stark’s womanizing, batman’s grimness, the fact there’s one girl ninja to every four or five guy ninjas, let’s talk about that in the hypothetical context of these male heroes being women instead. if there’s a girl version for every male character, what does that mean? what’s her story? 

and it became this really amazing lens for female fans to interrogate stories through, to examine the effects of sexism and misogyny and masculinity, to introduce another woman into a story with very few, to identify with fully-rendered heroes of the fan’s own gender. and to interrogate the very nature of gender, which led into the development of genderbends where the character’s gender identity didn’t necessarily match their assigned sex, and from there an increasing interest in, and familiarity with, trans characters, trans people, and trans issues. 

so like. people now reducing the issue to ‘cis people are gross and hate trans people’ is pretty ridiculous. it ignores basically twenty years of women questioning, confronting and then dismantling the de-facto heteronormative, exploitative male gaze in order to create the radically progressive fandom atmosphere as we know it today on tumblr. 

I’d been trying to put into words my issue with the idea that genderbent versions of characters are somehow automatically, innately transphobic, and I think you pretty well nailed it.

Originally, it was called ‘genderswap’ or ‘genderswitch’, which was rightfully criticized for reinforcing a binary view of gender. Hence why it is now ‘genderbend‘. Things can bend in many directions.

Yeah basically.

Rule 63s can be transphobic and gender essentialist, no question, just as m/m slash can be misogynistic, but it’s not inherent to the genre.

The way I see it, rule 63 and trans/nb headcanons are two subsets of what I call “gender AUs”, and they’re not mutually exclusive.  Girl!Sherlock Holmes is an example of one, trans!Holmes is the other, and trans woman Holmes is both.  All those would be worthwhile explorations.

Yes! And all sorts have their place because all of them are exploring the experience of an under-represented group (or two) in a different way.

Thank you for writing this 🙂 I never want to tell people that their feelings are invalid, but sometimes I think those feelings come from gut negative reactions that deserve to be re-examined. Like in this case, trans people have every right to be wary of something that could – and admittedly, sometimes does – re-enforce difficult gender stereotypes, and they also have every right to say genderbent art/fic isn’t to their taste or ask people to tag it.

But there’s nothing inherently transphobic about art that explores gender – quite the opposite, I think – and that’s what genderbends are about. It can be hugely beneficial to imagine male characters as female in order to explore roles that aren’t traditionally given to women (I would really love to see a genderbent take on, say, Stacker Pentecost for that exact reason). 

iacediai:

Fem Shiro and Keith, because I do what I want.
I wanted femShiro to be strong soldier lady and tried to save that Space Dad Mom vibes so she’s still pretty feminine. And femKeith is just…Keith? hahah. I can imagine how Lance call her “flat-chested” instead of “mullet” and she’s like “Dude? Wh-What’s your problem?!”
It’d be interesting to think about femHunk and maleAllura, too. 

jumpingjacktrash:

the-real-seebs:

curriebelle:

actuallyclintbarton:

guinevak:

skull-bearer:

thainfool-of-a-took:

roachpatrol:

mercurialmalcontent:

I’m not even much of a fan of genderbends but goddamn am I even less of a fan of getting ordered around about what I should enjoy and how I should enjoy it and being lectured about how ‘problematic’ it is, when the real problem is that they’ve cast the thing in question in black and white and refuse to admit that there’s anything but their narrow framing.

Changing a character to the ‘opposite’ cis gender is a very different thing than making them trans or nonbinary. Insisting that people only change characters to trans is also really damn invalidating, because it implies that being trans is interchangable with being cis. Whoopsie doodle!

I think the real issue here is that a lot of people want to see more trans headcanons, but for some reason think that using sj words while being bossy and rude is the way to go about it. Dress it up in progressive language all you like; at the end of the day you’re still being bossy and rude to get what you want, regardless of anyone else’s valid feelings.

i get really irritated at kids who scream that genderbends are transphobic because they’re completely missing the context and history. they have no idea. it’s like to them, Cis People made up genderbends specifically to thumb their noses at trans people.  

rule 63 was originally a guy thing, sexual objectification thing. it states ‘for every male character, there’s a female version of that character’, and not because the dudes who were into it cared about having more realistically rendered female heroes in their media. it was made popular on 4chan and porn boards and comics+gaming forums because you could reduce a manly male character into a sexy tits-and-ass pinup. there were related kinks of sissification, but mostly it was about getting to jerk it to a sexy female version of a previously unappealing, macho male character. 

then women got hold of the rule and started going, okay. let’s look at the female version of this male character. let’s talk about being a woman in a man’s world. let’s talk about rorschach’s misogyny, tony stark’s womanizing, batman’s grimness, the fact there’s one girl ninja to every four or five guy ninjas, let’s talk about that in the hypothetical context of these male heroes being women instead. if there’s a girl version for every male character, what does that mean? what’s her story? 

and it became this really amazing lens for female fans to interrogate stories through, to examine the effects of sexism and misogyny and masculinity, to introduce another woman into a story with very few, to identify with fully-rendered heroes of the fan’s own gender. and to interrogate the very nature of gender, which led into the development of genderbends where the character’s gender identity didn’t necessarily match their assigned sex, and from there an increasing interest in, and familiarity with, trans characters, trans people, and trans issues. 

so like. people now reducing the issue to ‘cis people are gross and hate trans people’ is pretty ridiculous. it ignores basically twenty years of women questioning, confronting and then dismantling the de-facto heteronormative, exploitative male gaze in order to create the radically progressive fandom atmosphere as we know it today on tumblr. 

I’d been trying to put into words my issue with the idea that genderbent versions of characters are somehow automatically, innately transphobic, and I think you pretty well nailed it.

Originally, it was called ‘genderswap’ or ‘genderswitch’, which was rightfully criticized for reinforcing a binary view of gender. Hence why it is now ‘genderbend‘. Things can bend in many directions.

Yeah basically.

Rule 63s can be transphobic and gender essentialist, no question, just as m/m slash can be misogynistic, but it’s not inherent to the genre.

The way I see it, rule 63 and trans/nb headcanons are two subsets of what I call “gender AUs”, and they’re not mutually exclusive.  Girl!Sherlock Holmes is an example of one, trans!Holmes is the other, and trans woman Holmes is both.  All those would be worthwhile explorations.

Yes! And all sorts have their place because all of them are exploring the experience of an under-represented group (or two) in a different way.

Thank you for writing this 🙂 I never want to tell people that their feelings are invalid, but sometimes I think those feelings come from gut negative reactions that deserve to be re-examined. Like in this case, trans people have every right to be wary of something that could – and admittedly, sometimes does – re-enforce difficult gender stereotypes, and they also have every right to say genderbent art/fic isn’t to their taste or ask people to tag it.

But there’s nothing inherently transphobic about art that explores gender – quite the opposite, I think – and that’s what genderbends are about. It can be hugely beneficial to imagine male characters as female in order to explore roles that aren’t traditionally given to women (I would really love to see a genderbent take on, say, Stacker Pentecost for that exact reason). 

i just want to point out that i know at least five trans people who have referred to the place they see a doctor about HRT as “the rule 63 clinic”.

i think genderbent art and fiction is very important as part of our culture’s collective exploration of gender. we NEED to include mutability. we NEED to place known characters in new gender frameworks and see how it changes things.

we need to see things like… (pause for me to think of examples, this is too fun and it’s hard not to get carried away) ok, if superman and supergirl were superwoman and superboy instead, what would change? clarice kent the dorky, earnest reporter and her hotshot little cousin karl. that’d be cute. would clarice date lois, or louis? both fun variations. but then you take someone like wonder woman, whose essential nature is linked to gender, and it’s not so easy. you can’t just go ‘uhhh wonder man from the island of man-azons’ unless you’re making a clumsy joke. the whole framework of greek gods and everything is involved. but you could imagine a counterpart, some avatar of bacchus perhaps, from an island of fauns, and instead of a warrior he’s a partier. an indestructible good-natured joker who just wants everyone to have some fun. instead of a genderbent wonder woman, you’ve got an oc inspired by her world.

that’s the kind of thinking about gender i want artists and writers to be doing. human gender and sexuality are complex and messy and fascinating. the fact that so much of the topic has been taboo for so long is a shame. art needs to be on the forefront of dismantling those taboos.

curriebelle:

actuallyclintbarton:

guinevak:

skull-bearer:

thainfool-of-a-took:

roachpatrol:

mercurialmalcontent:

I’m not even much of a fan of genderbends but goddamn am I even less of a fan of getting ordered around about what I should enjoy and how I should enjoy it and being lectured about how ‘problematic’ it is, when the real problem is that they’ve cast the thing in question in black and white and refuse to admit that there’s anything but their narrow framing.

Changing a character to the ‘opposite’ cis gender is a very different thing than making them trans or nonbinary. Insisting that people only change characters to trans is also really damn invalidating, because it implies that being trans is interchangable with being cis. Whoopsie doodle!

I think the real issue here is that a lot of people want to see more trans headcanons, but for some reason think that using sj words while being bossy and rude is the way to go about it. Dress it up in progressive language all you like; at the end of the day you’re still being bossy and rude to get what you want, regardless of anyone else’s valid feelings.

i get really irritated at kids who scream that genderbends are transphobic because they’re completely missing the context and history. they have no idea. it’s like to them, Cis People made up genderbends specifically to thumb their noses at trans people.  

rule 63 was originally a guy thing, sexual objectification thing. it states ‘for every male character, there’s a female version of that character’, and not because the dudes who were into it cared about having more realistically rendered female heroes in their media. it was made popular on 4chan and porn boards and comics+gaming forums because you could reduce a manly male character into a sexy tits-and-ass pinup. there were related kinks of sissification, but mostly it was about getting to jerk it to a sexy female version of a previously unappealing, macho male character. 

then women got hold of the rule and started going, okay. let’s look at the female version of this male character. let’s talk about being a woman in a man’s world. let’s talk about rorschach’s misogyny, tony stark’s womanizing, batman’s grimness, the fact there’s one girl ninja to every four or five guy ninjas, let’s talk about that in the hypothetical context of these male heroes being women instead. if there’s a girl version for every male character, what does that mean? what’s her story? 

and it became this really amazing lens for female fans to interrogate stories through, to examine the effects of sexism and misogyny and masculinity, to introduce another woman into a story with very few, to identify with fully-rendered heroes of the fan’s own gender. and to interrogate the very nature of gender, which led into the development of genderbends where the character’s gender identity didn’t necessarily match their assigned sex, and from there an increasing interest in, and familiarity with, trans characters, trans people, and trans issues. 

so like. people now reducing the issue to ‘cis people are gross and hate trans people’ is pretty ridiculous. it ignores basically twenty years of women questioning, confronting and then dismantling the de-facto heteronormative, exploitative male gaze in order to create the radically progressive fandom atmosphere as we know it today on tumblr. 

I’d been trying to put into words my issue with the idea that genderbent versions of characters are somehow automatically, innately transphobic, and I think you pretty well nailed it.

Originally, it was called ‘genderswap’ or ‘genderswitch’, which was rightfully criticized for reinforcing a binary view of gender. Hence why it is now ‘genderbend‘. Things can bend in many directions.

Yeah basically.

Rule 63s can be transphobic and gender essentialist, no question, just as m/m slash can be misogynistic, but it’s not inherent to the genre.

The way I see it, rule 63 and trans/nb headcanons are two subsets of what I call “gender AUs”, and they’re not mutually exclusive.  Girl!Sherlock Holmes is an example of one, trans!Holmes is the other, and trans woman Holmes is both.  All those would be worthwhile explorations.

Yes! And all sorts have their place because all of them are exploring the experience of an under-represented group (or two) in a different way.

Thank you for writing this 🙂 I never want to tell people that their feelings are invalid, but sometimes I think those feelings come from gut negative reactions that deserve to be re-examined. Like in this case, trans people have every right to be wary of something that could – and admittedly, sometimes does – re-enforce difficult gender stereotypes, and they also have every right to say genderbent art/fic isn’t to their taste or ask people to tag it.

But there’s nothing inherently transphobic about art that explores gender – quite the opposite, I think – and that’s what genderbends are about. It can be hugely beneficial to imagine male characters as female in order to explore roles that aren’t traditionally given to women (I would really love to see a genderbent take on, say, Stacker Pentecost for that exact reason). 

maiscribbles:

My guilty pleasure is trying to look for ES21 fic with Rule63!Sena, but the fics I read never give me a good visual for what she’d look like, so I drew my own with freckles, yes I am that bored and have that much power in my hands so why not

tl;dr let eggs fuck up their gender exploration without screaming at them please

roachpatrol:

gutterowl:

Thing that has me cranky today:  genderbend/genderswap art and fic is transphobic and wrong, and if you like it you are wrong and bad.  Why do you not listen to every trans person in the world telling you how wrong it is?

Like.  Dude.  You do realize that a decent number of the people who make and consume that sort of content end up being trans folk, right?

(Okay, let me preface:  I am a trans woman.  This is absolutely me talking about myself, and me talking about people I have known or seen in person.)

Like, let’s be straightforward.  Genderswap art is a usually rough, imperfect, messed up thing, with a lot of problems.

  • Often squarely rooted in binary gender notions.
  • Often obsessed with specific physiological features as *defining* gender (i.e. you are a girl if you have boobs and hips and a vagina, etc).
  • A good chunk of it does come from real grody sources.  I was a 4chan teen, once upon a decade.  I am aware of the “what if [male character] was a hot chick, so I could fuck them without it being gay” phenomenon.  That’s a whole ‘nother kettle of fish.

These are all big gross problems, rooted in deep cultural cissexism.  There are wrongheaded ideas here, and ideally people grow out of them.  But:

  • There are still eggmode kids who use the fantasy of genderswap to cope with dysphoria.

And I guess that’s what gets my panties in a wad.  Because no one comes into their gender shit clean and pure.  We gotta crawl through a mountain of cissexist cultural shit to get there.  It’s slow, and its messy, and it has messy detritus.  And then some folks go up to kids crawling through the shit mountain and get all huffy like, Wow why are you getting all this shit everywhere, you gross shit-person!

Not.  Helping.

Is genderswap material messed up?  It can be, yeah.  Should we as a culture push towards better and more fluid understanding of gender?  Abso-fucking-lutely.  Do you have a right to dislike it, or take issue with its permutations.  Sure, I certainly do.

But maybe don’t roll up on some kid already disgusted with herself and her body, and tell her that her coping mechanism, the thing that helps her swallow a bit of the disgust, is disgusting and makes her disgusting.  K?

you can have genderswaps when you pry them from my cold dead fucked-up hands