Fifteen minutes later a waiter just comes out like “Uh, who ordered the middle-aged man shrieking ecstatically in German while being pounded in the ass by an enormous Russian?”
And you just have to put your hand up like, “I guess that was me. I, apparently, ordered that.”
(Meanwhile, the cook’s in the back throwing another plate on the counter like “A Red Oni trashcan and a Blue Oni trashcan in a hopeless Foe-Yay spiral, pick it up!”)
This post got recommended on my dash, and I was going to reblog it anyway because the title is such a well-made point about joining a fandom, but then I read the rest and realised that I KNOW THIS MENU. I HAD THE DAMN BUFFET EVERY DAY FOR FIVE YEARS.
They make the best shrieking German I’ve ever had.
My long-standing analogy for why I don’t do fic exchange fests is because my writing brain is like a restaurant called Eats. You know the kind – the sign is half broken, and there’s no real menu. You get whatever I serve that day.
Today’s dish is unrequited love with a side of unreliable narrator. Dessert is store-bought trash of the thing.
Reblogging my own damn post because two people added amazing stuff to it. 😀
Tag: fandom
as a white™ to other whites™ in the omgcp fandom i feel like a lot of y’all are afraid to write poc because you dont want to get shit wrong but like fr. its not hard. just dont talk about being black or asian or latino if you dont know what its like. thats it. you can still write them, and have them be your main character, and allow them to be complex. you can be white and write a black character!!! all you have to do is not write about the black experience because you dont personally know about it. that means that you can still have them be black, like things that are typically associated with black culture (if thats what the character is like), and still have human emotions!! it can be done well, like if you take a gander at @geniusorinsanity who writes an amazing nursey!! and if you REALLY don’t feel comfortable making content like that, you can always reblog it!! support those creators, like @hoenursey and @omgcphee and @duanlarissa and @oluranurse and like a billion others!! follow accounts like @omgpocplease !! dont be afraid to show interest in those characters because even if you get called out, its a learning opportunity man. if someone calls you out then you just learn about what you did wrong like nobody is perfect but if you recognize your mistakes, own up to them, and strive to be better itll be okay!!! like the characters you want to, but dont be deterred from the ones you do because you dont want to make people angry!! its just a process of life my friends, we are all on a learning curve. (make content for non-white characters broski. it will enrich your life.)
#honestly even if someone writes something culturally inaccurate/racist#the poc affected by it are not likely to say something about it ti you#bc theres a big chance that the writer will dismiss or invalidate their concerns#rather than listen#and then the writer’s other [white] fans swoop in to agree that it wasn’t racist#and to comfort that writer’s feelings#completely ignoring the poc’s valid concerns in the first place#and thats not even touching upon what multiple people insisting its not racist will do#in making the poc question themself about whether it was racist or if they were just being sensitive#and sometimes the writer demands proof and then the proof needs to go thru hoops#ti be considered credible but its exhausting to have to deal with the invented standards#or the writer will say they never saw the racist thing happen and thus it cant be racist#when its not their place ti say what is racist#if theyre not part of that marginalized group#when fans of color are in a fandom and dont see as much focus on the chars of color as opposed to the white chars#esp minor white chars or white chars with the same amt of screen time as the chars of color#it tells us something#that chars of color and poc in gen are not valued in fandom and irl#i mean poc already knew that but fandom is an escape for so many people……#for white ppl it seems its an escape from poc. for poc the devaluation of poc irl/everywhere is not something we can escape in fandom#white people are not affected by racist microaggressions in fandom. poc are#its completely unfair that white ppl and poc can have such unequal experiences with fandom (via @omgcphee)
this is fandom
me: *canon does something i really dont like*
me: *freaks out, tries to think of ways it won’t be true*
me, eventually: fuck canon i do what i want
honestly i couldn’t care less about wether or not my ships become canon i just ship whatever i want cause i wanna. i don’t need “evidence” or “subtext” maybe i just think jarjar binks and jabba the hut would have good chemistry together i ain’t gonna write an essay defending it let me have a good time leave me be
Shoutout to younger people in fandom:
- It’s okay to enjoy “problematic” fiction.
- It’s okay to draw fanart and write fanfiction that appeals to you, and you alone.
- You’re allowed to ship whatever you want. Let me repeat this for emphasis: YOU ARE ALLOWED TO SHIP WHATEVER YOU WANT PERIOD.
- Your own enjoyment and entertainment are valid reasons to write, draw, or consume something.
- If this enjoyment takes the form of sexual gratification, that’s also a valid reason to writer, draw, or consume something.
- Fiction does not have to be morally pure. Fiction allows us to explore things that we wouldn’t want to experience in real life, things like violence, sexual violence, drug abuse, sexual taboos, or kinks: all kinds of weird or disturbingt things, and that’s okay.
- No, the narrative does not have to condemn these things explicitly.
- You don’t owe other fans an explanation or apology for the things you enjoy in fiction
- If someone asks you to reveal personal information, it’s okay to tell them to fuck off.
- There’s no such thing as a fandom police. Whoever claims to have the authority to tell you what is or isn’t acceptable for you to enjoy, is just arrogating that right. Their strategy only works if you let them have this power, so don’t.
- It’s up to each person individually to create a “safe space” for themselves.
- Other people’s mental health is not your responsibilty.
- Not wanting to hear about anyone’s personal trauma does not make you a bad person.
- it is admirable to want to help people with your work, but you’re allowed to do work that only benefits yourself. in fact, a certain amount of self-serving activity is necessary for your mental health. write what you like, because you like it.
baffling how much of this site is just conservative protestantism with a gay hat
you know what i’m in just enough of a bad mood that i’m ready to nail my grievances to the church door so let’s fucking go
- black and white morality wherein anyone who doesn’t believe/think/live exactly as I do is
a dirty sinnerProblematic and probably a predatory monster- everyone is
a sinnerProblematic buttrue believerspeople who activist the right way according to my worldview are still better than everyone else, and I will act in accordance to this belief in my own superiority to let everyone else know I’m better than them because Ifound Jesusam the most woke- casual and fucking omnipresent equations of womanhood with softness/goodness/purity/nurturing to remind every woman who isn’t/doesn’t want to be any of those things that they’re doing it wrong
- aggressive desexualization (particularly of women’s sexuality, to the point where it may as well not exist at all) accompanied by pastels [not a criticism directed ace ppl having a right to sex-free content and spaces but specifically targeted at a wider problem resulting from the previous point]
- YOU’RE VALID AND JESUS LOVES YOU and neither of these platitudes achieves a goddamn thing
- historical context is for people who care about nuance and we don’t have time for either (see: black and white morality)
- lots of slogans and quotes and nice little soundbites to memorize but does anybody actually study the source material with a critical eye to make their own informed analysis
- the answer is no
- I’ve been to bible study groups don’t @ me I know what the fuck I’m talking about
Good Christians™Nice Gays™don’t fraternize with/let themselves be influenced by
non-Christiansthose terrible queers- all the media one consumes must be ideologically pure or it will surely harm the children
- it is Our Sacred Duty to protect the children from Everything, thus ensuring their innocence/purity/etc until such time as they are idk probably 25 years old
- literally just “think of the children” moral panic y’all can fuckin miss me with that
- people who don’t conform to the dominant thinking WILL be excommunicated/driven from the social group, and any wrong treatment they suffer will be seen as a justified consequence of their wrong thinking
- I Saw Goody Proctor With The Devil And She Had A Bad Steven Universe Headcanon
Thank you for breaking it down like that because so many of us have been saying it but to see a play by play breakdown comparison is just…Thank you.
this parallel is incredibly apt.
i grew up a liberal protestant and watched my mom deprogram conservative women’s circles like some kind of jesus-freak natasha romanov, and i swear it looked a whole lot like roach and seebs dismantling sjw circlejerks today.
you don’t have to stop believing; you just have to start thinking too.
another place the parallel works is with people getting the most angry and doubling down on the worst instances of doublethink. the less defensible it is, the more they’ll cherish it, because it’s the gas vent of their death star. one shot there, if they let it in, will blow the whole edifice.
compare: conservative protestants furiously defending their love of war and violence, in direct contravention to everything jesus ever said; tumblr wowzers attacking women about sexuality, in direct contravention to everything real life social justice advocates stand for.
and i gotta say, being a quaker on christian forums really prepared me for dealing with these folks. y’all can’t rile me. i’ve turned the other cheek to southern baptists. i might get cranky sometimes when they tell nasty lies about people i love, but i’m not gonna lose hope or give up. i’m also not going to crack and show the seething evil beneath, or whatever they’re hoping will happen if they keep attacking long enough. this isn’t kayfabe. my faith and my activism both go all the way to the core, grown from seed over decades.
now that i think about it, i would be very interested in what the (raised)religious demographics are on this site. early programming matters a lot to how you approach problems (and problematics).
you know what BL gives women, regardless of their sexuality, regardless of anything else about them as women? an entire genre of work in which misogny is the bizarre statistical outlier instead of the norm. like do some straight women fetishize gay men in ways that are awful and nasty? yes. but the existence of an entire culture of creative work in which it’s basically impossible to encounter a disgusting or alienating portrayal of yourself, in which men are the objects to be displayed for the pleasure of the viewer, in which being gay is normal and heterosexuality is for side characters with no real backstory or plot relevance, in which men are the Other for once… it’s quite the phenomenon. it’s also really interesting to watch the “okama” trope/caricatures of queer trans culture get dissected and reinvented, etc, because yaoi from the 80s is often also casually transmisogynistic, or like relies on having a drag queen character around for humor, but in the 2010s it’s been really rare for me to encounter BL that shits on trans people. IT’S INTERESTING!!
i have never seen any acknowledgement of this from the gay boys who think women shouldn’t consume or produce m/m media for their own enjoyment and until i do i’m not inclined to take their arguments about ‘male objectification’ all that seriously, much less consider them persuasive.
because women can and sometimes do objectify gay men, and that’s not okay when it happens. people do treat each other as things and that is always damaging. but the vast majority of women’s consumption and production of m/m media is about escaping objectification, as well as (overt) misogyny, not replicating it. it’s about enjoying scenarios where every character is an emotionally realized and legitimate person.
there is i think this idea people always have that when a disenfranchised population seizes power, they’ll enact the abuses that were done on them to their former oppressors. that’s why you get straights freaking out about the Gay Agenda, whites obsessed with Reverse Racism, and, i think, men who don’t question the assumption that the pornography women create of men will be just as disrespectful and exploitative as the portrayals men create of women.
but it’s not like that. women’s creation and consumption of m/m stories isn’t dehumanizing. it’s not misandry, it’s not a desire to reduce, exploit, or degrade men. it’s pretty much just a longing for a world where all participants in a romance are fully recognized as people: a world a hell of a lot of women will never get to see outside of these fantasies.
Ppl always saying “u need Jesus,” and “find God,” and “go 2 church,” and like, Stephanie Meyer is a fanatical Mormon and if loving the baby Jesus didn’t stop her from writing the c-section-by-tooth-werewolf-attracting-hellbaby, why the fuck you think He’s gonna stop me?
i saw a post abt the mcelroys and their fandom and since i didnt agree entirely w/ the op and my brain went off on a related tangent im making my own post:
i think the level of scrutiny/boundary crossing/pedestal placing that goes on with people who get overly involved in the lives of minor internet celebrities (who dont have the money to protect themselves from the audience) is really uncomfortable and weird at best and grotesque invasions of privacy at worst. the way people use the same attitudes to talk about/discuss real people as they do fictional characters is unsettling and i think there needs to be a mass call for some empathy in fandoms that involve real people. at the very least the fandom needs to coach themselves on maintaining a respectable distance from the people who work hard to provide them with entertainment, instead of feeling entitled to every single aspect of their being.