Tell yes about that cow that licked someone into being?
OH MAN OH BOY OH MAN
Okay. Auðumla.
Before all things, there were only the planes of endless fire and endless ice. Where these met, the primal ice began to melt, and from the drops of meltwater sprang a child; Ymir, the first being, who was both male and female and who could reproduce asexually. Ymir had many sons and daughters. From the line of Ymir comes the giants.
Also from the melt sprang Auðumla, the great cow, who licked at the ice for nourishment. As she licked at the ice, Ymir suckled from her and grew. AsÂ
Auðumla licked at the ice, her licks uncovered Buri, the first of the Aesir.Â
Buri had a son named Bor. (The name of Buriâs wife has been lost, but we can assume that he either created Bor asexually or married one of Ymirâs daughters. As Buri is the god of creation, either may be true)
Bor married a giantess named Bestla, the daughter of the giant Bolthorn and granddaughter of Ymir.Â
They had a son in turn, who they named Odin. Odin Borsson, who with his brothers Vili and Ve slew Ymir to create the world. Odin, who would take on a thousand more names in time, including Allfather.Â
To clarifyâŚ
Auðumla licked the blocks of salt ice into the shape of a man, which then lived.Â
âŚwhat, nobody is going to turn that into a I lik the bred poem?
Donât look at me, I suck at poetry. But⌠it just seems like the Universe would want it to happen.
Considering the fact that poetry is a highly honorable pursuit and poets are held in high esteem YES SOMEONE DO THE THING THE GODS WISH IT
my name is cow
and long ago
when I cam
from melted sno
i hav a thirst
so in a trice
i mak a man
i lik the ice
A SKALD EMERGESÂ
Oh Iâll do you one better.
In Old Norse:
Ek heiti kýr ok Þå er svǍng ek neyti tungu eins ok eldfǍng
So listen up yâall, nothing drives me crazier as both a writer and a scientist than seeing alien diseases that make no fuckinâ sense in a human body.Â
If youâre talking about alien diseases in a non-human character, you can ignore all this.
But as far as alien diseases in humans go, please remember:
DISEASE SYMPTOMS ARE AN IMMUNE RESPONSE.
Fever? A response to help your immune cells function faster and more efficiently to destroy invaders.
Sore/scratchy throat? An immune response. Diseases that latch onto the epithelium of the throat (the common cold, the flu) replicate there, and your body is like âuh no fuckinâ thanksâ and starts to slough off those cells in order to stop the replication of new virus in its tracks. So when it feels like your throat is dying? guess what it literally is. And the white spots you see with more severe bacterial infections are pus accumulation, which is basically dead white blood cells, and the pus is a nice and disgusting way of getting that shit outta here.
(No one really knows why soreness and malaise happens, but some scientists guess that itâs a byproduct of immune response, and others suspect that itâs your bodyâs way of telling you to take it easy)
headache? usually sinus pressure (or dehydration, which isnât an immune response but causes headaches by reducing blood volume and causing a general ruckus in your body, can be an unfortunate side effect of a fever) caused by mucous which is an immune response to flush that nasty viral shit outta your face.
Rashes? an inflammatory response. Your lymphocytes see a thing they donât like and theyâre like âhEY NOWâ and release a bunch of chemicals that tell the cells that are supposed to kill it to come do that. Those chemicals cause inflammation, which causes redness, heat, and swelling. They itch because histamine is a bitch.
fatigue? your body is doing a lotâgive it a break!
here is a fact:
during the Spanish 1918 Plague, a very strange age group succumbed to the illness. The very young and very old were fine, but people who were seemingly healthy and in the prime of life (young adults) did not survive. This is because that virus triggered an immune response called a cytokine storm, which basically killed everything in sight and caused horrific symptoms like tissue death, vasodilation and bleedingâbasically a MASSIVE inflammatory response that lead to organ damage and death. Those with the strongest immune systems took the worst beating by their own immune responses, while those with weaker immune systems were fine.
So when youâre thinking of an alien disease, think through the immune response.
Where does this virus attack? Look up viruses that also attack there and understand what the immune system would do about it.Â
Understand symptoms that usually travel togetherâjoint pain and fever, for example.
So please, please: no purple and green spotted diseases. No diseases that cause glamorous fainting spells and nothing else. No mystical eye-color/hair-color changing diseases. If you want these things to happen, use magic or some shit or alien physiology, but when itâs humans, it doesnât make any fuckinâ sense.Â
This has been a rant and I apologize for that.Â
As a microbiologist, I think the main advice here is to take into account real diseases and conditions before you make up a fictional disease or condition.
Some bacteria have physical effects on the body that cause symptoms (EHEC varitype of E. coli ruptures cells at the site of infection, which is usually the large intestine, hence, you have bloody stools from it). If your alien or âmade-upâ bacteria or virus causes a certain symptom, find a real bacteria or virus that causes the same symptom. They need to behave in a similar fashion and have similar physical traits. Bacteria and viruses do not evolve functions because theyâre cool. They evolve them because theyâre useful.
There are also dietary issues, medications and chronic diseases that cause physical changesâcopper toxicity can cause an orange ring around the iris, an eyelash lengthening âmedicineâ causes darkening and/or color change of the iris, hemochromatosis (sometimes known as âBronze Diabetesâ) causes darkening of the skin etc. If you want to use this sort of thing, again, find something real that causes it and work through things logically.Â
Play your cards right, do your research and you will have hordes of readers in the scientific and/or biological community cheering, screaming and crying because they love your work.
@biologyweeps, this feels up your speculative alley – anything to add?
Ohhh.
Iâd like to add that the same goes for parasitic infections, more or less. If you want a certain trait for a diseases, cross reference with existing parasites to see whatâs happening, and also make sure you check what happens if you put a parasite in a host itâs not meant for. We can sensibly assume that alien parasites that encounter a human would be âwtfâ and potentially cause complications that would never happen in the native species. Maybe in the native species it causes a cold like reaction at worst, but in a human the parasites may attempt to nest in a totally different tissue. Maybe that causes widespread tissue damage by the parasite itself as it tries to borrow in? Again, check existing cases to see what horrific things could happen.
While weâre on it, also check how your disease is communicated. One of the things that annoy me so much with zombie movies is that âbitingâ is supposed to be a very effective way to spread it. Itâs not. Anything that requires such intimate contact is actually kind of hard to communicate. Airborne things? Now there we are at potential âoh shitâ territory. So if you want your disease to sweep the country/planet/ship, pick something thatâs easily communicable.Â
Also consider the incubation period. How long until someone shows symptoms? Are they already infectious to other people before showing symptoms or still after they stopped? As mentioned above, illness symptoms are in most part immune responses and the immune system needs time to get up and run. Give it that time.
And while weâre at it⌠there are symptoms that arenât immune responses. For example the cramps that accompany tetanus are caused by a toxin the bacterium produces that damages/destroys nerve cells. Viruses can cause tissue damage when they insert in cells, replicate in there and destroy the cell on exit. Think of how HIV can wreak havoc on the human immune system by killing of a specific kind of cell. Depending on where your viruses likes to replicate it can massively impact the look of it. Something that destroys liver cells will look different (and if survived may come with different long term damage) than something that prefers skin or muscle cells. If itâs alien also consider how it might behave differently in its original host.Â
Fantastic post, I can relate to OP 100%. More points:
Nothing makes me groan harder than a made-up plague which gives anyone X diseases within seconds to MINUTES. Iâm looking at you, most zombie movies. And if your alien/synthetic/sci-fi pathogen is at all like a virus (read: no metabolism of its own, just genetic material of some kind which it uses to reprogram host cells), then the rate at which it mupltiplies is limited to what normal human cells can do. Now, viruses can multiply pretty damn fast. But give you symptoms within MINUTES? Nope.
So long as weâre on the subject of epidemiology, and speed:
 "Oh no, patient died less than a day after being infected! Weâre all doomed!â Wrong. While that SOUNDS scary, a plague that kills that quickly would not actually be that dangerous, and would be unlikely to have evolved to begin with. A disease needs to pass itself on to at least one other person, on average, before it kills its host, or itâs doomed to extinction. Any virus that kills its host before it has a decent chance of being passed on will basically quarantine itself. (Of course, you CAN do this if you handwave its origins as being made in a lab or whatever, just know it wonât realistically pose a truly terrifying threat on a population level.)
Mmore ideas for a realistically scary made-up plague:
– Long incubation period (say, a couple of weeks), making quarantine much more difficult, disruptive to everyday life, and unlikely to succeed.
– Infectious period != symptomatic period, i.e. someone can spread the disease before they appear sick. (Note: if this condition is met, then dying very rapidly after *manifesting symptoms* becomes plausible again, more plausible than dying quickly after being infected.)
– The possibility or relative prevalence of healthy carriers – think Typhoid Mary. I.e. rare people who skip the symptoms part entirely but are still infectious.
– The disease is transmitted through an animal that is hard to keep out, the definition of âhard to keep outâ would depend on the setting here. Poor water sanitation means waterborne bacteria and microscopic parasites would be a huge danger. Insect or arachnid (e.g. tick) bites could be a danger in almost any setting..
– As an alternative to above point: the bacterial/viral/parasite/whatever can form spores that are fucking EVERYWHERE. (Read: the reason for both tetanus and botulinum poisoning.)
– The pathogen is both dangerous and impossible to fully exterminate through vaccination because it has a huge population of reservoir hosts. (Reservoir hosts are entire SPECIES that can carry and propagate the disease without being affected much by it.) Same way the Black Plague is still out there because a shitton of rodent species passively carry it.
And many more things if you do some research for inspiration! Pathogens are scary, fascinating things, and I really wish we had more realistic fictional representation of them than âvirus which causes zombie behaviour in 3 seconds flatâ (looking at you, 28 Days Later) and âvirus which can MIND-CONTROL people who view the main carrier through a COMPUTER SCREENâ (wtf???) (looking at you, Jessica Jones).
had a dream last night that the Daleks got wind of the phrase âan apple a day keeps the Doctor awayâ and, yâknow, took it literally. they built this massive fucking fortress out of fucking apples and just like chilled in there and Rose was like âdoctor wot r u gonna doâ and ten was just like  âiâm not gonna do anything, maybe theyâll just sit quietly in their apple domeâ
When asked, Ms. Frizzle denies that she âknows everythingâ
However, Ms. Frizzle always knows what her students are up to, knows the answer to every question they ask her, and never shows fear even when in extreme mortal peril, as if sheâs experienced this all before
Although we know she was in a rock band called the Frizzlettes and was a Shakespearean actress, Ms. Frizzleâs childhood remains mysterious
Ms. Frizzle is EXACTLY the sort of person to travel back in time to teach herself, and is in fact the most likely fictional character to do so
Nobody is ever named âValerie Frizzleâ at birth
Ms. Frizzle dresses queerly and laughs at her own bad jokes
A lot of the series is about Arnold learning to take chances, make mistakes, and get messy – that phrase is more or less targeted at him as a student
Ms. Frizzle looks a lot like a grown-up Arnold
Holy shit???????
She literally has a giant storeroom full of barrels of pickles because she loves pickles so much what more evidence do you need
What relation do pickles have with the transgender community?
One of the medications used in hormone therapy for trans women (spironolactone, which counteracts testosterone) has the side effect of, putting it crudely, making you have to pee all the goddamn time. That causes dehydration and loss of electrolytes.
Pickles and pickle juice turn out to be a fairly convenient and flavorful way of satisfying an electrolyte craving. Those whoâve been on spiro a long time can develop a nigh-spiritual bond with âem.
dope
holy FUCK i knew ms. frizzle wasnât straight but i never THOUGHT to consider that she wasnât cis how could i be so BLIND